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Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
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Plants

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Plant Bosses

[7]

Potted Plants

[4]

Zombies

[9]

Zombie Bosses

[2]

Gargantuar

Yeti Zombie

Zombie Turrets

[3]

Boxer Bot

Breaker Bot

Hide-n-Shoot Bot

Other Characters

[5]

Plant Horde

[1]

Hypno Shroom

Cosmetics

[11]

Ability Objects

[2]

Dummy Shield & Future Dummy

Potato Mine

Unused

[5]

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	Peardian May 29, 2024, 12:52 PM
	@Fawfulthegreat64 and @MasterPengo: Yes, the feature was useful to some degree, but consider the following points: • Not all submissions get approved. If someone rushes to do a shoddy job ripping a popular character from a new game and it discourages people from providing a better submission, then it's a loss for everyone. There may have even been times when you yourself saw a pending model and told yourself "I don't need to worry about this one", only to realize months later that the model never showed up. You would have to wait doubly long to get the model on the site, and with our super-backlogged queue, that could mean many extra months of waiting. • Having the list hasn't stopped people from submitting duplicate models before. For example, the 3 Luigis in Super Mario Bros. Wonder. The list is only helpful if you read it before ripping anything. • We are constantly having to deal with comments about the pending submission list, many of which get deleted. Of course, we don't have any statistics on how many times the pending list has dissuaded someone from contributing a model, but I would wager that the number is far lower than the amount of comments we clean up. Punishing commenters is not feasible, because talking about the pending list is not against the rules, in the same way that it's not illegal to heckle food servers for food not being ready fast enough. • Redundant submissions can still have value. If two people submit the same model, one person may have provided less formats or effects than the other person. Maybe each submission has something the other doesn't have, and in that case, they can be combined to create an even better submission. Personally, I would much rather see two equally-valid submissions of a model than one faulty submission that holds up the process for everyone else.

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	TheSpectacularPencil Oct 30, 2024, 2:57 PM
	Now I have to wait for them to be approved.

	TheSpectacularPencil Aug 12, 2024, 12:08 PM
	Done, all Rose models have been uploaded

	TheSpectacularPencil Aug 11, 2024, 12:20 PM
	look! a new model!

	TheSpectacularPencil Aug 10, 2024, 5:07 PM
	Time to upload all rose models

	DigitalDiamal Aug 7, 2024, 7:32 PM
	@_vissova_ Some just lack the concern for others wellbeing unfortunately.

	_vissova_ Aug 7, 2024, 5:17 PM
	It's their site, if they want to remove the visibility of pending models because users are too annoying about it they have that right. Frankly some users can be pretty entitled. Staff do their best.

	teh_supar_hackr Jun 21, 2024, 2:24 AM
	Was gonna say letting people view models on the site before there approved was a good idea, but those are good points. Maybe have it scan the files for viruses before posting? As for people planting the most shocking content known to earth, not sure about that.

	Peardian May 31, 2024, 6:42 PM
	@John the Geek: I can think of two super obvious reasons why that would be a terrible idea. 1: Imagine someone uploads the most popular character of the hottest new game, but with a virus in the zip. Imagine they upload it overnight when all of the staff are asleep. Dozens or even hundreds of people download the virus and have their computer infected before anyone notices the problem. 2: Imagine a malicious user uploads utter garbage. Hundreds of zips full of broken models, files stolen from other users, misleading names, shock images disguised as textures. Dozens or hundreds of people could be exposed to that trash before it has a chance to be removed. We care about the quality of the sprites and models we host here. We don't want to be a wild west dumping ground full of useless garbage that people have to dig through to find value in.

	BillyBnMOfficial May 31, 2024, 6:20 PM
	I'll just say this, it gets annoying when someone points out what's pending and/or how many things are pending, but overall I felt it was a lot more convenient to see what others have sent on the main model page rather than not knowing what could be coming

	John the Geek May 31, 2024, 3:56 PM
	@Peardian This is all a fantastic discussion, but I'm curious why hold submissions at all? No model on this site is perfect. Depending on a users purpose, good enough might just be fine. You can still make them public and verify them at your convenience, just mark them as "unverified" or some marker so people know they haven't been vetted yet. You could even add a thumbs up/down feature and let the community rate them, still marked as unverified, and then at least your review staff would know where to focus their efforts. A model with a low or inconsistent rating would be a better place to start than a model with a perfect rating. And you wouldn't have to sit on them while you review them. The site's content is already community contribution, so why not let the community help review the submissions too? Downloading may not need to login, but reviewing certainly would to prevent abuse. That sort of thing. Anyway, just some thoughts, since this seems to have been boiling for a while.

	Peardian May 29, 2024, 2:07 PM
	@Grounder: I don't understand what you mean. My second point explicitly describes how the feature did not prevent the thing it was designed to prevent. Also, the rest of my points are to emphasize that the feature is not as beneficial as people perceive it to be. We're not taking away an unambiguously beneficial tool out of spiteful punishment, we are taking away a feature that causes more harm than good.

	TheSpectacularPencil May 28, 2024, 7:25 PM
	@RandomTalkingBush: ok

	NolanSuperman May 28, 2024, 6:25 PM
	@Random Talking Bush: Ok

	DigitalDiamal May 29, 2024, 5:37 PM
	@Peardian Yeah, I pretty much said it's not gonna help, the idea is meant for a reminder for those who aren't the uploader that it will take time before it gets into the site in public.

	Peardian May 29, 2024, 5:24 PM
	@DigitalDiamal: Submitters can already see the date when their own submissions were uploaded. The only thing making the dates public would do is encourage people to say "wow it's been 1 month and the model isn't approved yet" even more than they already do.

	DigitalDiamal May 29, 2024, 4:16 PM
	@Peardian I know this might not help, but is it possible for the queue to have a date where it was uploaded on? Just to show that it will take time before it gets accepted.

	Peardian May 29, 2024, 2:54 PM
	@Grounder: No, it was not an isolated incident. It happens for many popular game releases. Sure, maybe it happens less often than before the list was added, but as the rest of my points describe, this is not necessarily a good thing.

	Grounder May 29, 2024, 2:39 PM
	@Pearidan: "The list is only helpful if you read it before ripping anything." is what I meant. Surely the majority do, and Luigi was an isolated incident?

	Grounder May 29, 2024, 1:38 PM
	I understand the comments are an annoyance, but it still really feels to me like everyone is getting punished because of a small handful of bad actors. Additionally, while I can't speak much for your first point, you are essentially describing why the pending model feature was useful in your second.

	MasterPengo May 29, 2024, 5:25 AM
	An addendum to what Fawfulthegreat64 said: not knowing what's already been submitted by other users is especially a problem if the model someone wants to submit is particularly difficult or time-consuming to rip, such as a location. A person could end up wasting days, if not longer, ripping something that another person has already submitted.

	Fawfulthegreat64 May 29, 2024, 2:23 AM
	@RandomTalkingBush - I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but I think taking away a VERY USEFUL feature because some people are annoying about it is not an ideal solution. I'm all for cracking down on impatient people. But this feels like it's punishing everyone else more than them. For example I assumed nothing was pending and submitted, now for all I know those submissions could be redundant. Why not just start getting harsher with the punishment on offenders rather than doing something that punishes everyone else?

	Random Talking Bush May 28, 2024, 6:45 PM
	@TheSpectacularPencil: No, any submissions that were pending before are still in the queue, but are only visible to the staff and the original submitters, it's just the public list that's not visible now.

	TheSpectacularPencil May 28, 2024, 6:20 PM
	@RandomTalkingBush: ok, So would I have to re-upload the models again when the pending models are available?

	Random Talking Bush May 28, 2024, 5:50 PM
	@TheSpectacularPencil and NolanSuperman: The pending submissions lists have been removed for the time being, as too many users were weaponizing those lists to complain at the staff for not reviewing them sooner (even when they're literally in the queues for a day...) and constantly pointing out how many submissions were piling up as if that would make things better...